Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Your opinion about Dragons, are they real?

I personally think that the concept of Dragons and the legends that surround them come from people having discovered the fossils of dinosaurs and then trying to explain to themselves what they were or might have been. I also think that it may have been possible for some type of large dinosaur to have survived the ice age much like the aligator, tuatara lizard, kimodo dragon, and the Coelecanth (a type of prehistoric fish). My question is what do you think? and if you think that this may be possible do you know of any web sites or scientific evidence that could back this idea up?Your opinion about Dragons, are they real?
An article in the January 1993 National Geographic boldly proclaimed: “No human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.” Now, does he know that, or does he think that? There is no way for anyone to know that unless they had at least talked to everyone who has ever lived.



If dinosaurs lived contemporaneously with man, you would expect to find legends of dinosaurs in history. Why don’t we read stories about men fighting dinosaurs or dinosaurs eating people’s cows and stuff like that? Well, most people are unaware that the word “dinosaur” was not coined until the 1840s by Sir. Richard Owen. So, if these creatures lived alongside humans prior to that time, they were not called dinosaurs. So what were they called? Dragons. Most cultures throughout the world possess ancient stories about dragons and sea monsters that closely resemble what we today would call dinosaurs. For instance, the flag of Wales depicts a dragon, which by the way, is claimed by some to be the oldest national flag still in use. Dragon stories have been handed down for generations in most civilizations.



No doubt many of these stories have been exaggerated through the years, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t have their original basis in fact. I believe many of the dragon legends are simply distorted versions of dinosaur encounters. As Paul Taylor has said, “Most of the dragon legends are full of exaggeration, magic and marvelous deeds. But this is not true of all of them. Many stories seem rather believable.”



It is true that many of them are mythical or legendary but it is also true that most legends are based on some truth. It cannot be an accident that so many separate peoples of the world tell such stories.



The story of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, and Saint George killing dragons are likely to have been based on at least some fact. These were real men in history.



As I'm sure you know, dragons are prominent on Chinese pottery, embroidery, carvings, etc. It’s interesting that the twelve signs of the Chinese zodiac are all animals—eleven of which are still alive today, but one is the dragon. It doesn’t seem logical that the ancient Chinese, when constructing their zodiac, would include one mythical animal with eleven real animals.



In 1271, Marco Polo (the Italian explorer) reported that on special occasions in China the royal chariot was pulled by dragons. Marco Polo also said that the saw long reptiles in Asia called Lindworms that could easily ran as fast as a horse.



In 1611, we can see that the emperor appointed the post of “Royal Dragon Feeder” which doesn’t make sense if there were no dragons to feed. We also find Ancient Chinese books telling of people using dragon eggs, blood, bones and other parts for medicine.



John of Damascus (an Arab monk in the 8th century) wrote against some of the wild and mythical claims about dragons and said, “I am not telling you, after all, that there are no dragons; dragons exist but they are serpents [reptiles] borne of other serpents. When just born and young, they are small; but when they grow up and mature, they become big and fat so that they exceed the other serpents in length and size. It is said they grow up more than thirty cubits [45 feet]; as for their thickness, they become as thick as a huge log.”



There is a well-known science book from the 16th century by a Swiss naturalist and medical doctor named Conrad Gesner called Historia Animalium. The book claims that dragons were still not extinct in the 1500's, but were extremely rare and relatively small by then.



The American Indian “Thunderbird” stories sound like pterosaurs and even some evolutionists have conceded on that point. Darlene Geis said, “The thunderbird appears in many Indian tales and Indian art work. Its description is very much like one of the prehistoric flying reptiles that flapped its way through the skies in the days of the dinosaurs.”



After Alexander the Great invaded India (356-323 B.C.) he brought back reports of great hissing reptiles the Indians kept in caves. There was one that really frightened his army was estimated by them to be over 100 feet long.



And then there’s all the stories of giant sea serpents and sea monsters. As Dr. Mace Baker said, “For more than a thousand years ancient and medieval mariners often returned from their voyages with frightening tales of encounters with, or sightings of, large and dangerous sea monsters.”



There are hundreds of these types of legends. Evolutionists just say that it’s coincidence that many of them sound like dinosaurs. World Book Encyclopedia says: “The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man was supposed to have appeared on earth.”
yes.



well when you ask a question like I say why wouldn't they exist?



now there was a big lizard that lived a long time ago but after the dinosaurs that was said to be in Australia. this lizard killed allot of early people but in a movie on animal "LOST into the past' or something like that it said that "we" used fire to kill them and set fire to the bush. now other tribes might have had lizards ruining or maby have killed people wile trying to escape the fire and some who saw that linked the fire with the animal.



http://survive2012.com/dragon_myths_6.ph…



http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/histo…



IF THEY EXISTED



Now why might they not exist? they would have lived a long time ago and were killed by the KT event. but the water dragon would have lived.

http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/…

now they could have moved on land as said in the site and humans would haved not liked that much. there would have been fight and nobody lived to tell the story so dragons went into myth and legend. sad. but the water dragon could be living at the bottom of the ocean and we have just not found them, there fossils could been lost to Earth's platal movements, or we just have not found them.



keep this all in mind and if you want to talk about e-mail me.



so having said all that yes I believe dragons once lived.



one more thing...komodo dragons are monitor lizerds now they may resimble dragons and that could be one of the stories that evalved into dragons but konodo dragons are MONITOR LIZERDS



and one more thing maby a dragon like the chines one exsisted and stories about it flying came around so other put wings on them. or maby a dragon lived in between dinisours and birds?



the hard thing about dragons is that nobody can prove it and there is a lot of evedence that sqay the do and don't exsist. until we no we have to dicide for our self.



and for those of you that say dragons are dinisours thats good, but thing=k could dinisours be dragonsYour opinion about Dragons, are they real?
for me, dragon isnt real and i dislike it because of its look. Dragons in the legend may eat humans and normally are bad. However, in China it is a good sign .

emperors have dragons all over their building,clothes ...

i dont wish dragons to be real either to disrupt this peaceful world.
i do.....but not the kind you hear of the prince killing!!! i believe that fish were once dragons before they devoloped fins and gills.......i also think that some dinosaurs were early dragonsYour opinion about Dragons, are they real?
Pure mythology pretty much based on the things you suggest.
There is no scientific support or evidence to support the existence of dinosaurs.

The animals you have list surviving the ice age are animals that where not affected by the ice age as the where to far away from the poles (in Europe for example the ice only came as south as where Paris stands today) so alligators, Komodo dragons (which are only in one small island group and its very near the equator) coelecanths (which are only found in tropical waters) and tuataras ( which are isolated on New Zealand and survived because of animals had not had access to their to out compete and predate on them) where never effected.

You will find websites that support you however they have no real evidence and rely on wild speculation and questionable conclusions and occasionally will just make evidence up.
Purely myth in my opinion, I've not seen any indication let alone evidence that could convince me otherwise.

There is a lengthy discussion on this here, I'm sure you will find someone that will point you to what they consider evidence if you ask:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/for…

There is also an Animal Planet Production that explores what dragons could have been like if they existed:

http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/…
I think the myths are from what you suggest. However the dinosaurs died long before the ice age. If one had survived for long after the cretaceous some evidence would have been found. Especially if one was large enough to cause these legends.



Keep in mind that things like the loch ness monster are completely bogus tourist attractions. The Loch is only 1/2 mile wide at its widest and can be seen across! A pleisiosaur (which are not dinosaurs and some did survive until the last ice age) has to breath and would have been filmed long ago! The most famous photo was proven to be a hoax when the son of the man who took the photo admitted it was a hoax and a photo was of a toy submarine with a cover over it to look like a pleisiosaur!

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